I have prayed and preached for the rights of women and blacks to improve and I am sure that will happen in the future, but it will never go away. You have to understand that it's okay because you have to strive for better continuously until you get what you want. Once you stop you are settling. There will always be injustice and you have to talk openly about change if you really want it. Interviewer: What did you think of Harriet Tubman? Sojourner: I met her in Boston in 1864 and tried to explain to her that Abraham Lincoln was not an enemy of blacks, but she refused to believe it because he let black soldiers be paid less than white soldiers. He was right, but I think he is a very kind man towards us because of the support he had for the fight against slavery. Interviewer: Who pushed you to be older and why? Sojourner: Lucretia Mott was the greatest. She encouraged me to join the women's rights movement. There was also Frances Dana Gage who gave me the line "Ain't I a woman?" that made me famous and was really written to make people understand that just because I'm black doesn't mean I'm not also a woman. Harriet Beecher Stowe also wrote an amazing essay about me that touched me